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    Chinese cars coming to the USA?

    I just saw a commercial with people from around the world saying “hello” in their native languages. I thought it was just another iPhone ad or something but no, it was from Chinese car giant, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co.

    Wondering why the hello commercial, I did some reading and it appears there’s going to be a new badge to become familiar with next year:

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    Article: https://www.motortrend.com/news/chin...s-market-2019/

    Article: http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...o-list-for-u-s

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    Re: Chinese cars coming to the USA?

    I remember when Kia's first started to show up at like $7500 with their "buy one get one free" sales and everybody said they're crap. Fast foward 25 years... the Kia K900 starts at $51,000 and Miata guys are on the prowl for those old "junk" mid-90's Kia's in junkyards to rob their Mazda BP motors. I'm interested to see what they bring here.

    As soon as gas prices go crazy again people are going to be dying for cheap, small, high mpg cars that all other manufacturers are cancelling, but I suspect would sell well in China. ***Edit: Boo, their website shows "SUV/Sedan/Minivan, nothing remotely small*** That could make for some serious market opportunities. If they can keep their quality under control I could see them being as HUGE as the HUGE guy before long.
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    I remember before that when a communist Yugoslavia sent us their Yugo. What a POS, also a buy-one-get-one free toward the end. When KIA showed up, I couldn’t have cared less. Now, I have one and love it; very fun and useful for a DD; extremely well built with great materials even for an econobox. Why was I paying twice as much for less for my Ohio-built Civic?

    That K900 is really something else. If I wanted a luxury sedan with a V8 that rivals German brands but for half the price, that’s what I would get.

    KIAs depreciate quickly and then stabilize which is how I got my fully-loaded, 3-year-old Soul for a mere $12K while a brand new, identical one sells the lot for $25K+. I saw a few very tempting K900s for $23K-$27K.

    Chinese cars here are still an unknown. Apparently, GAC manufactures some Japanese cars under license for Honda and Toyota for the Chinese market so they must be doing something right. What feels weird is the current climate of tariffs, trade deficits and talk of trade wars against China so what’s going on? Are they going to staff the plant with Chinese workers?

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    Haha. The Yugo was before my time, I guess it's pretty hit or miss when a new company shows up.
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    Funny fact: they couldn’t produce thin sheet steel so Yugo bodies were twice as thick as everything else. Driving around a corner, you’d have to stick your hand out the window to push the car back upright, not unlike Joe’s Miata now.

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    Also, GM begged for a taxpayer bailout in order to survive while rewarding executives with million-dollar bonuses for their malfeasance (thanks, taxpayers!). Eventually, they repaid the bailout but now they’re laying off 15,000 workers right before Christmas. Shamefully, just after receiving a massive tax break, some production will shift offshore. So, no, I don’t think there will be a concurrent C7-C8 production line.

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    Re: Chinese cars coming to the USA?

    The smartest move the Koreans auto manufacturers did, IMO, was grabbing all the styling and engineering talent in LA around '08-09. I worked in Irvine around that time, I knew and frequently lunched with other designers from Ford, Fiskar, Mazda, and Toyota. When Ford closed their design department in Irvine, Toyota-Calty also dumped a bunch of talent, Fiskar was a trainwreck from the get-go. Kia/Hyundai had a big complex just on the other side of town and scooped up a bunch of those guys. It's really paid off for them and their products are appealing, on-target, and quickly becoming desirable.

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    Read a story today where a women put a million miles on her Kia. Kia gave here a new car.
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    For me the crying shame of the GM and Ford is their failure to build their cars made in Europe for Europe and the world in the USA for the US market. The GM Opel, T Holden and The Ford Cortina, Escort, Capri and other Ford cars the world market, but not the USA. Both companies made a choice product cheap poorly designed sub compact cars like the Falcon, Pinto, Vega, Tempest, Chevrolette, I am not talking about importing their cars, but just building the very same car in US factories. Yes The Unionized US Labor force cost would be higher, but a smaller volume could have been build in an existing line by absorbing the labor cost with the domestic product. Why didn't they do this? They didn't want to reduce their profit margin. I believe that if the US Auto industry had build good compact cars adjusting their manufacturing systems to builded a variety of models they would have kept their US market healthy and been competitive with the import market.
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    Re: Chinese cars coming to the USA?

    They did to some degree. Ford was a little more ahead of the game. A number of powertrains from the 70s were engineered by Ford's European division. They translated more shared parts between the continents than the other two domestics. GM has/had Vauxhall and Opel. Chrysler has done well worldwide with a few of the Jeep models after they bought the brand from AMC.

    There are different regulations, consumer markets, and philosophies between the continents that are their own complex iterations. A lot of other tertiary factors as well.

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